This week, Everyone & Their Mom host Emma Eun-joo Choi and producer Jennifer Mills join us to round up the week. We reflect on two years of COVID, The Slap that everyone can’t stop talking about, and the new Netflix show Is It Cake?

Then, Dylan Marron tells us about his mission to humanize online interactions between strangers. His new book Conversations with People Who Hate Me is a distillation of the lessons he learned while making his podcast of the same name.

Plus, we talk to travel writer Jen Rose Smith about the future of the travel guide in book form.