NOTE: These episodes were recorded before the COVID-19 situation took hold. Given the rapidly changing situation, it’s jarring to hear us ignore it—and that’s why.

How to do spring cleaning more effectively, a reminder about REAL ID, and a conversation with Rusty O’Kelly about dealing with the common happiness stumbling block of interviewing for a job.

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